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Tuesday, June 4, 2024: Agenda for June 4th Liturgy Meeting & some Sad News

Agenda for June 4th Liturgy Meeting

Please join us in person or on Zoom and participate in our Liturgy Meeting on Tuesday, June 4, 2024 starting at noon and ending at 3:00PM:

Join us In-Person at Knox Presbyterian and Thanksgiving Lutheran

1650 West Third Street

Santa Rosa, CA 95401

or Join Zoom Meeting with this link:

Passcode: 1234

Or Use the Meeting ID: 519 315 8573

Passcode: 1234

Or by Phone: +16699006833,,5193158573# US (San Jose) +16694449171,,5193158573# US 


Opening Prayer:

Here are 12 issues for discussion. We can add more if needed. Dan and Steve would like to quickly poll the group to see if any of these even need to be discussed.


We would like to go through the topics by breaking into small groups of 4 for about 6 minutes to discuss the topic, regather into the large group and have one person present your groups points.


Then open it up for community discussion and decision making. While in the small groups, it would be helpful to follow “The Way of Council” like Alice led us at Enid’s.


The four pillars of this way are:

·      Speak from the heart,

·      Listen with your heart,

·      Spontaneity, and brevity of word or speech.

·      A talking piece is a great way to keep it on track. 


1.        A discussion about what is going on during our liturgies. Is our Eucharist the same or different from what we were taught during most of our upbringing?

If not the same, then why are we using the same rubric or form. What is the Eucharist for each of us? Steve

2.        Methods of receiving the bread and wine, Iona version, tincture method (dipping bread into cup),etc. Can the liturgy team decide this?

3.        Zoom: Inclusion vs Intrusion. Is there a way to be inclusive with less intrusion?

4.        A discussion about the quality of recent liturgies.

5.        A discussion regarding going outside the usual Roman Catholic/Episcopal format.

6.        A discussion about Resources? David

Music: live singing, recorded music. Technological issues with music, especially singing with Zoom. How does it come across to those on Zoom?

7.        Liturgical Themes

8.        Do we need a liturgy class? Can the movie about Teilhard substitute for a liturgy class? With focus on his “Mass on the World.”

9.        Offering liturgies for persons or causes? Joe Silva

10.     Time for our liturgies? What time do we want to meet.

11.     Should we have some joint liturgies with the Knox communities?


Closing Prayer:

Resources for past Liturgies

Our Blog: has printed liturgies for our Sunday celebrations and files for downloading

Our daily message: Printed liturgies and files for downloading

This is our shared resource location for some of our past liturgies (This is the Google shared Drive)

Sad News about Caryl Callsen

From: Rita Mize <>Sent: Monday, May 27, 2024 12:07 PMTo: Rita Mize <>Subject: Caryl


Dear Friends,

You are receiving this e-mail because I received the sad news over the weekend from Brian that Caryl (Callsen) is gravely ill.  She has been diagnosed with a non-operable, terminal brain tumor.  They just learned this since returning from their annual Kauai trip in April.


In his first note, Brian indicated that they have sorrowfully come to terms with this diagnosis.


Brian’s follow-up note to me follows and explains what Caryl can and cannot do. As he indicates, they would be happy with calls, notes, etc.  (Brian and Caryl both have new e-mail addresses since they moved to Pacific Grove last fall  -- Brian’s  follows ( and, as you can see below, he asks that you call or write to his phone/address rather than hers since he does not have time to monitor both.   


If you wish to send a physical card, their address is: 608 Sage Ct, Pacific Grove 93960.


With love and best wishes for your health,


From: James Jepson <>Sent: Monday, June 3, 2024 11:15 AMTo: Marcie Dahlen <>; 'David Carlson, for the Emmaus Community' <>Cc: Tamar Yager <>Subject: FW: Caryl Callsen Illness


Marcie – You knew Caryl from our 2019 Western Region Conference planning group, and probably from other Regional Conferences, which she usually organized.

David – I expect you knew her from some of those conferences and/or a CTA national conference.

Tamar – You probably saw her at one or more CTA national conferences.  She really carried CTA Sacramento chapter for many years.

I wrote to her husband, Brian, and told him I would like to visit them; they now live in Pacific Grove, which is just a tew miles from our home.

I will keep you posted after I have had a chance to visit them.

  • Jim Jepson


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